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« on: March 12, 2010, 06:58:53 AM »

I just recently got into P'up'ing myself and it did not take long for my buddy to catch the bug. After a year of camping with me, I helped him buy his first rig. THough he enjoys it, he now knows what he wants and is ready to buy something better suited for him.

We've found a 1995 Coleman Utah that seems perfect for him but we have a few questions / concerns.

#1 Coleman offers no information on a Utah for '94, '95 or '96. There is a '99 Utah but it is very different. What's the deal?

#2 In the pictures, it appears to be a 10' box but in the only bit of information I've found online, it's described as having a 12' box. Further complicating the issue, NADA lists it as having dimmensions between the typical 10' & 12' box plans.

#3 What is the Four Seasons series? I can read the info on Coleman's brochure but it describes this series as having hard sides which the '95 Utah does not. The '95 Utah appears to have the same floor plan as the Williamsburg. Might the Utah be some sort of hal breed of the Williamsburg without hard sides?

#4 The Williamsburg indicates a 12' box with a 22'8" length and so does the '95 Utah. Why not 25' like all other 12' box models?



We really like this unit judging by the pictures but it is a haul just to go see it. We'd love to know if there is something kooky about this model and why it is not documented anywhere before investing the time and gas to go see it.

Any help would be appreciated, Thanks!
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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2010, 07:07:31 AM »

#1 Coleman offers no information on a Utah for '94, '95 or '96. There is a '99 Utah but it is very different. What's the deal?

Coleman a.k.a Fleetwood now again a.k.a. Coleman often introduced models that weren't necessarily in the annual brochure because they weren't ready at the time of publication.  The rare but very nice Nevada comes to mind as one such example ... there eventually was a single page spec sheet issued for it but it never did show up in any brochure.  Since "Coleman" was actually Fleetwood in 1995 I'd suggest you do some online searching under 1995 Fleetwood Utah, not Coleman.  NADA claims it's open length is 22'2" which suggests to me it'd be a 10' box and in looking at the 1995 brochure it looks like the Utah could have been a mid season addition to the Four Seasons hard wall series that included the Hatteras, Yosemite, and Cape Cod ... but it's curious then as to why this model you're talking about doesn't have hard walls so is the current owner claiming it is a Four Seasons model or could it be that NADA has it wrong? Question

Another reason some models don't show up in brochures produced for the US is market ... in the late 90's Fleetwood produced a model called the Redwood and most units were shipped to markets outside the US, including Canada and Europe, and as a result weren't well known in the US.

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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2010, 07:48:25 AM »

OK, so I found this ad for a 1995 Coleman Utah for sale here in Ontario ... says it's a 12' model but with a "king" bed at the front and a "double" at the rear I doubt that very much and would suspect it's a 10' box just like my 2000 Santa Fe which had the same bed sizes.  As you can see this Utah does not have hard sides, just the usual tenting ... sure looks much like what was the 10' Sea Pine in later model years.  FWIW, this same guy who's running this ad here in Ontario has a Bayside for sale as well ... and although the Bayside is a 12' box with a front storage trunk he claims it's a 16' model ... some imagination! Clown Wink
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Coleman 2:13 'And he said, "let there be camp'n!"


« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2010, 08:32:34 AM »

Fleetwood & Coleman's site for folding trailers are one in the same. No mention anywhere of a '95 Utah. I even called 2 dealers but they came up empty handed as well, even for exported models.

@Oz > Thanks for researching! That is the same ad I found and it appears to be identicle to the one here. Similar description and specs, similar pictures.

This has really got me biggin! I guess we'll just have to go see it and if everything checks out, bring it home!

Even if we are satisfied with it, it will still be itching to find out what went on with this model. Again, the floor plan seems to be identicle to the '95 Williamsburg but no hard sides. I wonder if something happend with that design causing them to ditch the whole hard side thing mid year and they just finished building the units with tenting under the name 'Utah.'

Whatever it is, you would think there would be atleast a spec of information somewhere other than just 2 guys in all of North America who happen to be selling one!
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2003 Honda Odyssey
1994 Royale (sold)
1998 Redwood (sold)
1996 Bayport (sold)
1996 Utah (sold)
1996 Sun Valley (sold)
2002 Laramie (sold)
2004 Rockwood 2480 (sold)
2004 Cheyenne (sold)
2000 Fairview (current)
1 Wife
4 Kids (10,8,6,1)
1 Newfoundland
1 St. Bernard
1 Yellow Lab
1 Kitten (smuggled in from Canada)
1 Guinea Pig
2 Geckos
1 Fish
1 Lobster
1 Grass Shrimp
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